EP 51. Lessons From Our 48 Year Marriage Journey; Your Still the One; Part 1
In this illuminating episode of the Married and Love It podcast, hosts Greg and Linda Smith delve into the intricacies of their enduring marriage, celebrating 48 years of partnership. They engage listeners with a narrative that blends personal anecdotes with profound insights, illustrating the journey of love, resilience, and commitment. The episode is anchored around the theme 'You're Still the One', encapsulating the essence of enduring love and the lessons learned throughout their shared experiences.
The hosts recount the serendipitous circumstances surrounding their initial meeting, painting a vivid picture of their youthful encounters at a local disco. This nostalgic reflection serves to remind listeners of the excitement and passion that often ignite romantic relationships. However, the narrative quickly transitions to the realities of married life, as Greg and Linda candidly discuss the challenges they have faced, including health issues and the emotional toll of personal loss. These experiences underscore the importance of mutual support and understanding in navigating the tumultuous waters of life together.
As the episode progresses, Greg and Linda emphasize the importance of continuous learning and communication within a marriage. They advocate for proactive engagement in one's relationship through participation in workshops and the pursuit of marital counseling. The episode culminates in a heartfelt call to action for couples to reflect on their own journeys, highlighting that love is not merely a feeling but a commitment that requires ongoing effort and dedication. Through their story, Greg and Linda inspire listeners to cherish their marriages and to strive for deeper connections with their partners.
Takeaways:
- The podcast emphasizes the importance of continuous investment in one's marriage through regular teachings and discussions.
- Listeners are encouraged to view their relationship as a journey, acknowledging the highs and lows that every couple experiences.
- Greg and Linda share personal anecdotes from their 48-year marriage, highlighting lessons learned along the way.
- Communication is presented as a critical element in marriage, with the hosts planning to delve deeper into this topic in future episodes.
- The couple stresses that marriage requires effort and intentionality to navigate challenges and maintain love over the years.
- Listeners should consider seeking marriage counseling and participating in workshops to strengthen their relationship foundation.
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00:00 - Untitled
00:05 - Introduction to the Podcast
03:03 - Lessons from Our Journey: Celebrating 48 Years Together
12:55 - The Beginning of Our Journey Together
14:53 - A New Chapter of Challenges
21:00 - Turning Points in Marriage
29:21 - Building a Foundation for Marriage
34:29 - Building Foundations for a Lasting Marriage
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Speaker BWelcome to the Married and Love it podcast.
Speaker BWe are Greg and Linda Smith, your.
Speaker AHost from Raleigh, North Carolina.
Speaker BIt's great that you are taking time to invest into your marriage by listening.
Speaker ATo our weekly podcast.
Speaker CThe goal of our podcast is to provide you with a weekly dose of marriage teaching to help you stay focused on your marriage.
Speaker CSee it as freshening up your marriage, preventive maintenance, a marriage tune up or fantasy, the flames of romance, love and passion.
Speaker CWell, you can even call it continuing education.
Speaker BWe will be covering everything that has to do with your marriage including hot topics like sex, communication, love and much, much more.
Speaker BOur teachings are based on Christian principles plus over 47 years of marriage and ministry experience.
Speaker CWe want to help you make your marriage great by teaching you how to be married and love it.
Speaker BIt is an honor and privilege to.
Speaker AHave you join us.
Speaker CWe're glad you joined us today to get the weekly dose of Married and Love it your Marriage Booster Shop for the week.
Speaker CNow we previously planned to continue with the topic of communication and marriage in marriage and the do's and don'ts to becoming a skilled communicator, but we're going to pick up on that in a future episode.
Speaker COn this one though, we're going to be talking about you're still the one Lessons from Our Journey now first of all, let me apologize.
Speaker CGreg and I both want to say that we apologize for the delayed podcast release because I had a medical procedure done and I've been in recovery from that, plus healing from a broken foot and another surgery that was just done a few weeks ago.
Speaker CSo there's been a slight delay.
Speaker AYes, there's been a slight delay and we are getting ready to give you some good information about our journey.
Speaker ABut first I just want to brag on my my wife Linda because she just mentioned all the things that she has been going through with her healing and we got right she says, I think I can record.
Speaker AAnd so we got her up to the table and she couldn't get close enough to the microphone for it to work because in certain positions it hurts.
Speaker ASo we had to get very creative on how we positioned her microphone and it's quite a set up here.
Speaker ABut I'll tell you what, she is a trooper.
Speaker AShe is a trooper and she's a blessing to me and I believe she's going to be a blessing to you today as we talk about our journey.
Speaker ASo what we're going to talk about is our journey as a married couple.
Speaker AAnd this past Wednesday was our 12th.
Speaker AI mean on the November 12th was our 48 year anniversary.
Speaker AAnd that was two days after she had her last procedure.
Speaker AAnd, and so what we're going to do is look at our 48 years.
Speaker AAnd we titled this 48 year anniversary, you're still the one.
Speaker ABecause I can look at the crosses table and Linda can look at me and we both are able to say, and it's not a faith statement.
Speaker ANow, sometimes it may feel like it, but it's not a faith statement that we can say, you're still the one.
Speaker AAnd we're going to talk about lessons from our journey because we've been through a lot of stuff, but we're still pressing on.
Speaker AAnd a highlight of our anniversary, since she was still recovering from her procedure and all the other stuff is I cooked her some chicken soup that day and I put my apron on.
Speaker AAnd we like to get in the kitchen and cook.
Speaker AI'm usually the sous chef and the dishwasher, she did just very little because she could not stand very long.
Speaker ABut we got in there and, and played some love songs.
Speaker ALinda said, hey, let's put on some love songs.
Speaker ASo we got love songs playing and we just had a nice time in the kitchen cooking and making some soup.
Speaker AAnd actually the soup came out pretty good.
Speaker ASo that's where we're at.
Speaker ASo this, this episode, we're going to take time to talk about how we met and what's happened since we met back in 1975 all the way through to today.
Speaker ABecause this is what Mary to Love is about.
Speaker ABecause you're going to have a journey in your life.
Speaker AMaybe you've been married six months, maybe you're a newlywed, maybe you've been married longer than us, but your marriage is a journey and God wants that journey to be awesome.
Speaker AAnd yes, you're going to have ups and downs and you're going to have tests.
Speaker AAnd that's why a lot of people don't make it.
Speaker AThey don't make it out of the gate or they don't make it for six months or maybe after 12 years, we want you to make it until one of y' all goes home to heaven or we all get raptured together.
Speaker ASo we're gonna, we're gonna, that's what we're gonna talk about.
Speaker AOur life.
Speaker AThis is what we've lived.
Speaker ASo we know what works for us.
Speaker ABut I want to point out something I heard somebody say the other day that just because, say we've been married 48 years or somebody's been married for a long time, doesn't us doesn't necessarily mean they got this awesome marriage.
Speaker AIt may be they just didn't have the energy to kill each other.
Speaker AOne of them's dependent on the other.
Speaker ASocial Security check.
Speaker AYou don't know why, but not all marriages make it happily.
Speaker A48, 50, 60 years.
Speaker ABut in today, of all the marriages out there, 7.7% of the marriages have reached 50 years.
Speaker ASo that's quite a milestone.
Speaker AWe've got two more years to go.
Speaker AAll right.
Speaker AAnd then the research said over half of those that do reach 50 will say their marriages are not what they would like for them to be.
Speaker AAnd they're not thriving in their marriage.
Speaker ANow, that's sad.
Speaker AAnd that's why they say the new divorce is the grain divorce.
Speaker ASo, yes, you may see somebody that's been married a long time, you know, check them out, ask them, how's your marriage doing?
Speaker AAnd I'm sure if they're doing good, they can share some nuggets.
Speaker AAnd that's what we want to do.
Speaker AAnd Linda and I are not perfect.
Speaker AWe have our moments.
Speaker ABut I tell you what, we.
Speaker AWe're still the one because we've learned how to overcome.
Speaker AAnd I want to read this article that's from Ann Landers.
Speaker AI like to read these old inlanders from years ago, but it's talking about a 40 year marriage.
Speaker ASo just listen, okay?
Speaker AThey go, Darian Landers, the.
Speaker AThe woman from Louisiana who offered her husband to anyone who would take him, described his virtues.
Speaker AHe was a good family man, church going, in excellent physical condition, who doesn't drink, smoke, or gamble.
Speaker AThen she listed his flaws.
Speaker AAnd we need to take a reality check in our lives to see how the fruit of the spirit's working in our lives.
Speaker AShe listed his flaws.
Speaker AHe was mean, selfish, critical, deceitful, miserly, demanding, rude, vain, inflexible.
Speaker ABut he was a good, good family man.
Speaker AAnd he went to church.
Speaker AHe was unforgiving.
Speaker AAnd she added, this is the tough part.
Speaker AHe sucked the joy out of life on a daily basis.
Speaker AShe said she stayed with him for 40 years.
Speaker AAnd then she says, anyone who wants this man's twin brother can find him in Cleveland.
Speaker AI married him and added the incentive.
Speaker AHe plays the piano.
Speaker ANo notice necessary.
Speaker AI can have them packed and ready immediately.
Speaker AOne caveat is no deposit, no return.
Speaker AMarried 40 years and the husband.
Speaker AAnd it could be the wife sucking the life out of their marriage and the joy.
Speaker ASo we don't want you to be like that.
Speaker ALynn and I don't want to be like that.
Speaker ASo we're talking about lessons we've learned to help us get to where we're at.
Speaker ASo that's what we're going to be going over.
Speaker AAnd so we're going to start out back in 1975.
Speaker AThat's when our journey began.
Speaker AI was a year out of high school.
Speaker AI was working for my dad or working some type of part time job, going to University of Central Florida which back then was called ftu.
Speaker AI'd go surfing every day whenever I could at the beach because we were in Orlando, Florida.
Speaker AAnd so I had a tan, I had dark long hair.
Speaker AAnd we would go to this place, me and my buddies, we were Christians so we wanted to date Christian girls.
Speaker ASo we went to a place called Rated G. It was an under 21 disco.
Speaker AThis is back in the John Travolta days and all that.
Speaker AThe lighted dance floors that lit up when you danced.
Speaker AAnd I'd hate it to dance.
Speaker ABut we'd been in there two or three nights kind of checking out the girls and, and all that.
Speaker AAnd I noticed this one hot looking blonde haired girl, tan, blonde hair, two or three times but it never worked out.
Speaker ATo be able to ask her to dance.
Speaker AI was probably chicken.
Speaker AWell, this one night we got there and the line was long, we almost didn't go in.
Speaker ABut finally we got in there and my two or three buddies were sitting there talking, checking everything out and all of a sudden this guy comes over and he says will you please go ask that girl over there to dance?
Speaker CWell, what, what you didn't know.
Speaker CWhat Greg didn't know was I've been eyeing on him on all those nights and he was in my opinion, so slow.
Speaker CWhy, why isn't.
Speaker CHe didn't want to ask me to dance so I would hang out with.
Speaker AHanging out with the guy.
Speaker CI do, I hang out with guys.
Speaker CSo he thought that was my guy friend, which it wasn't.
Speaker CWe're just, I just was normally hanging out with guys.
Speaker CI didn't like hanging out with the girls, they were too petty.
Speaker CAnd so I sent my friend over to Greg and I said will you please, you know, he said will you please ask her to dance?
Speaker CShe won't leave me alone.
Speaker CAnd so finally we hooked up.
Speaker AWell, they got my friend next to me, he was standing there, her dad and he says if you don't go ask her, I will.
Speaker CAnd so Greg hopped on it and Greg did not know how to dance.
Speaker CHe, what I called it all the time was the grind.
Speaker CSo he get out there and do the little grind and I dance and we just had a blast together from that point on.
Speaker CAnd, you know, so he was looking for a Christian girl.
Speaker CAnd I think the question came up.
Speaker CWhat was it?
Speaker CYou asked me?
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAfter several dates, we were sitting in the car talking, and I said, I got to ask her if she born again.
Speaker ASo I said.
Speaker AI think I said, are you saved?
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd what'd you say?
Speaker CYeah, because I didn't even.
Speaker AYou said, I'm Catholic.
Speaker CYeah, I said, I'm Catholic.
Speaker AAnd I said, that's good enough for me.
Speaker CSo that worked for him.
Speaker CAnd here.
Speaker CHere's our date.
Speaker CNights that we would meet at rate a D. Then we, after dancing, we would go to Steak and shake.
Speaker CY' all probably heard of that.
Speaker CAnd then that's when they were back on the roller skates.
Speaker CThat was a long time ago.
Speaker CRemember that, Derek?
Speaker AAnd you know, the way I knew that she was the one.
Speaker ABecause eventually we sat in the car one night and I got up the nerve to kiss her.
Speaker ASo I gave her a good kiss.
Speaker AAnd the song Stairway to Heaven by Led Zeppelin came on.
Speaker AAnd that's like a seven minute song.
Speaker AAnd I think we lip lock for seven minutes.
Speaker AAnd the song was Stairway to Heaven.
Speaker ASo I knew that was a sign from God that she was the one for me.
Speaker ASo we dated.
Speaker AI think she broke up, went back with her old boyfriend for a short period of time.
Speaker ABut I won.
Speaker CWell, I was still in high school.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AI mean, first year, she was still in high school.
Speaker CYeah, that summer.
Speaker CBut that summer, Greg took me to his church, and that's when I actually really did get born again.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAnd so throughout my whole senior year, he started coming to.
Speaker CI was a cheerleader.
Speaker CAnd so he would come to the games and be right there to support me and all that.
Speaker ABut she looked pretty good in her little skirt, too.
Speaker CThat was kind of fun, right?
Speaker CYeah, but we got involved in the ministry right away, didn't we, dear?
Speaker AYeah, I was already involved in some youth ministry with high school, working with the.
Speaker AThe.
Speaker AThe youth there.
Speaker AAnd so she came right along.
Speaker AShe got born again a little bit after that.
Speaker AShe started coming to the meetings I would go to for leadership.
Speaker AAnd we started our ministry before we.
Speaker ATogether.
Speaker ANot a, quote, a ministry, but started ministering together before we were even married.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CYou know, y.
Speaker ASo we got married back in 1997.
Speaker C1977.
Speaker ASo, yeah, 1977, after 50 years, getting older, all it runs together.
Speaker ABut I can still remember that day.
Speaker AThat's the day we started our journey together.
Speaker AAnd the guy who sang our wedding Song.
Speaker AOne of the songs I can remember.
Speaker AWe both have a joke about it.
Speaker AIt.
Speaker AThe song was Let Us Climb the Mountain Together.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI don't think I have forgiven him.
Speaker AFor that yet because we didn't realize what that of course we were just.
Speaker AWhat do you think about it?
Speaker ABack then we were just in love and such.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker CWe were considered the all American couple.
Speaker CYou know, it was crazy.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWe would very involved in the.
Speaker AThe high school youth ministry there and they started calling us the all American couple and all that.
Speaker AAnd then.
Speaker AThen we got married and our.
Speaker ASo the journey really took off and that's what we're gonna get into more about lessons we learned along the way.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker ASo right after we got married, we were there for a little bit and then we got ready to move to Charleston.
Speaker ABut Linda, talk about some things we had to face in that first three years.
Speaker CYeah, the first three years I got in a grease fire and burned my arm so bad and had to have several skin graftings done on my arm.
Speaker CAnd even in that time I had a miscarriage.
Speaker AYep.
Speaker CAnd you know, between all of that, then we moved away from my family and.
Speaker AAnd when she had the.
Speaker AThe burned arm, I was.
Speaker AMy aunt lived there in our.
Speaker AThis is in Winter Park, Orlando.
Speaker AI would come home from work.
Speaker AShe had to stop her job she was working in and come home and take care of her, feed her.
Speaker AAnd I had to help her do every.
Speaker CBoth hands, everything.
Speaker AYou're Talking about a 21 and a 2019 year old going through this stuff.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AYou know, so I learned back then being a servant and taking care of her.
Speaker ASo we had to get through that.
Speaker AAnd then like she said, she had a miscarriage.
Speaker CAnd I believe it or not, I.
Speaker ADidn'T have much in feelings back then other than for her.
Speaker ASo it didn't even dawn on to me back then what was really going on where I could even incur.
Speaker AI'm sure I encouraged her some, but it didn't.
Speaker AIt didn't wipe me out.
Speaker AAnd I wasn't.
Speaker AI didn't really realize what was going on back then.
Speaker AI was.
Speaker AGuess I was young and dumb.
Speaker AYoung give as much support.
Speaker CYep.
Speaker CAs what was exactly right.
Speaker CWell, once we got through a little bit of that, then we moved our first move away from all my family to Charleston.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CAnd then we did a second move.
Speaker AWell, we moved to Charleston to work with junior highs with our youth pastor who moved up there.
Speaker CI was pregnant with Tiffany.
Speaker AYeah, we had Tiffany there.
Speaker ASo we had our first daughter all this time.
Speaker AAnd that Puts a whole new strain on your marriage.
Speaker COh yeah.
Speaker AAnd most of y' all can relate to that.
Speaker AAnd then I got the call.
Speaker AWe needed to go into full time ministry and I needed to go to Bible college.
Speaker ASo we packed up from Charleston and moved to Fort Worth, Texas.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AAnd then I went to Bible college.
Speaker CSo further away from my family.
Speaker CYeah, even so.
Speaker AAnd I didn't realize back then how much family and how much she was with her mom and she wanted to be around family because I had no brothers and sisters and I was, I'm.
Speaker CFrom a big family.
Speaker ASo we came from.
Speaker AThat's one of the things since going against us.
Speaker AI'm a single kid, but I was not spoiled.
Speaker AAnd basically.
Speaker AAnd she had a big family and we moved to Fort Worth, Texas, went to Bible college.
Speaker AI was a youth pastor, full time youth pastor before I got a Bible college.
Speaker ABasically broke then.
Speaker AAnd during that time we, we, we went to it.
Speaker AWe left youth pastoring, excuse me, there.
Speaker AAnd we went with a church and we pastored for a little while.
Speaker AAnd then we had two kids.
Speaker ALinda.
Speaker AWe had two kids.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AAnd what happened there?
Speaker CWell, we had two children, Tiffany and Jason.
Speaker CAnd Jason was a twin.
Speaker CAnd I carried, without knowing it, Jason's twin, full term.
Speaker CAnd then afterwards he was kind of, I don't know that he was small so they, you know, he did.
Speaker CBut you know, that's kind of normal for child.
Speaker CBut.
Speaker CWell, it was a surprise to us because we didn't, back then we didn't have all the sonograms and stuff.
Speaker CAnd so we lost Jason's twin.
Speaker CAnd that was very traumatic for me.
Speaker CBut still, again, Greg kind of was feelingless.
Speaker CHe never, he never had a clue.
Speaker CHe wasn't there during it all and it was just kind of a mess.
Speaker CBut to say the least, there was a lot of emotional trauma that had gone on back in those days.
Speaker AYeah, we had a lot of different things hit, of course, just having two kids less than a year and a half apart.
Speaker CYeah, that puts strain.
Speaker AAlthough I think we came through that pretty good.
Speaker AYou know, we had to come up with our parenting skills, but I think we, that was a good time in our life.
Speaker AAnd then while I was in Bible college, we had this, this word that came to us from.
Speaker ALinda was in there and the lady started, said this couple in the back, she was.
Speaker AWent around ministering to people, kind of like a word of knowledge or something.
Speaker AAnd she actually read our mail about what was going on in our marriage, about me and our differences.
Speaker AAnd I'm not Going to go into all that.
Speaker ABut she said, your love that you have for each other, primarily, if you get this other stuff under control, you're going to be called out to teach.
Speaker AAnd I remember that word came to us and we looked around and thought they were somebody behind us, but it was us.
Speaker AAnd she said, you're going to be called out.
Speaker AThe teaching on marriage.
Speaker AWell, at that point, I was my goal as a full time youth pastor.
Speaker AWe said, I don't know where she got that from.
Speaker AAnd we just went on and never thought about it again for several years.
Speaker ABut during that time when we had the kids, like when we got ready to have Jason, we got pregnant, we decided we wanted to have another, another child.
Speaker AAnd that was right after we moved to Fort Worth to go into Bible college.
Speaker AAnd so we Faith plus works.
Speaker AJason came along and I remember telling our kids, I mean, remember talking to my parents and said, oh, what are we going to tell our parents?
Speaker ASee, I was real.
Speaker AI was controlled in a sense, parents pleaser or whatever.
Speaker AI was concerned about what they thought, what they did or what, what I didn't, how well they were going to think about it.
Speaker ASo I thought they were going to be totally mad at us for having a kid, for having another child.
Speaker ASo I kind of said, what did I say?
Speaker CYou lied.
Speaker AI lied.
Speaker CYou just totally lied.
Speaker CYou know, we told them about me being pregnant again, and they're like, what?
Speaker CWhat are you guys even thinking?
Speaker CAnd Greg's like, no, no, I. I didn't even know about it.
Speaker CAnd I looked at him like, are you kidding me?
Speaker CThis was a decision we made together.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CI was aware of kids and I wanted a bunch of them, but here we are.
Speaker CSo I'm thinking, why you got to be kidding?
Speaker CWell, as moving forward, that was a.
Speaker AMajor knife in her back.
Speaker COh, yeah, that was rough.
Speaker CSo back in 1986, and I had left to go home to visit my family, which I had not done in, I can't even say since we left, since from the very beginning, that move out of Orlando.
Speaker CAnd I got home and I'm like, I am not gonna.
Speaker CI'm not gonna do this anymore.
Speaker CBecause Greg was pleasing everybody but me.
Speaker AI put everybody else first.
Speaker AYeah, we didn't understand our personality types.
Speaker CWe didn't understand each other at all.
Speaker AAnd I basically put her in a box, big time, into my little box.
Speaker CMothered me.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAs a youth pastor and be involved in the ministry.
Speaker AI said, she should act like this and not like that.
Speaker AAnd Linda's back then, her personality, she's a real outgoing person, but she was probably.
Speaker AShe had her differences stuff.
Speaker ASo I would try to put her in a box regardless if it was right or.
Speaker AOr what she was doing.
Speaker AAnd that just crushed her.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CAnd with all the past things that had gone on, I. I had decided, no, I'm not going to do this.
Speaker CIt went against every grain that was in me because I just, I. I. Divorce is not a word that would even cross my mind.
Speaker COnce you're married, you're married for life, till death do you part.
Speaker CBut we went.
Speaker CI just had gone home and I'm like, okay, I'm not going to live like this anymore.
Speaker CAnd so I just let him know I'm not coming home.
Speaker CYou know, that's it.
Speaker CI came home just to pack up my kids and all of our stuff and moved.
Speaker CI had already gotten everything all settled out, had them arrange to go to a certain school, the whole bit.
Speaker CAnd Greg's like, at that point, what were you thinking, dear?
Speaker AShe called up and said, I'm coming home to get the kids.
Speaker AThis was out of the blue.
Speaker CI was.
Speaker CI had the kids, but just all.
Speaker AOur stuff, all the stuff.
Speaker AThis kind of came out of the blue.
Speaker AI mean, we knew we were.
Speaker AThings weren't always the best, but I was just blown out.
Speaker AAnd I said, this happens to other people, not me.
Speaker ASo I found every marriage book was three of them we had on our house on Marriage that she had been trying to get me to read for several years.
Speaker CYeah, can we do a conference?
Speaker ACan we read the conferences?
Speaker AI wouldn't read the books.
Speaker AI wouldn't do anything.
Speaker ABut I read them all in about two days.
Speaker AAnd then she got back for a day and we talked.
Speaker AAnd then I had to do a wedding ceremony for somebody, some friends of ours.
Speaker AAnd so I'm up performing a wedding and looking out in the audience.
Speaker AAnd there's Linda, who she was helping there, too.
Speaker AAnd I'm thinking, what a hypocrite.
Speaker AMy wife's getting ready to leave me and I'm performing these people.
Speaker ABut that afternoon, what happened?
Speaker CWell, a gal that, from Bible school that was mentoring, she was like a really close mentor for me.
Speaker CAnd she said, linda, come over.
Speaker CLet's just talk about this and see.
Speaker CAnd I'm like, you're not.
Speaker CYou're not ginger.
Speaker CYou're not gonna get me to go back with the dude.
Speaker CAnd so we.
Speaker AI was home praying and fasting may have only been for an hour that I need, but.
Speaker CSo I went to her house, her and I crawled up in the bed together.
Speaker CI know that sounds weird, but, you know, it's kind of like your mom, you know?
Speaker ADid y' all have ice cream, too?
Speaker CNo, but it was, you know, it's like crawling up in the bed with your mom and just pouring your guts out to them.
Speaker CAnd so she's like, just give the guy a chance.
Speaker CAnd so after we got done talking, I decided, okay, God, what do you want?
Speaker CWhat do you want?
Speaker CAnd of course, the Lord say, if his heart has turned around, which at that point, he really did have a desire and a heart to make things work and to change the way that he had been.
Speaker CAnd God even gave me that scripture out of Ephesians 3:20, that says, Linda, I'm gonna do above and beyond all you can think or ask in this.
Speaker CYou know?
Speaker CAnd then I knew this scripture, Jeremiah 29:11, that says, I got a plan for you and it's for good.
Speaker CSo that was the point.
Speaker CI decided, okay, I'm gonna stay.
Speaker CAnd we have.
Speaker CWe do a whole.
Speaker AWe're.
Speaker CWe're doing episodes on all of this about what we learned through all this.
Speaker CIt didn't happen overnight.
Speaker CIt wasn't an immediate change.
Speaker CIt took like, two or three years.
Speaker CI remember laying in bed about three years.
Speaker AShe came back.
Speaker AWe were laying in bed.
Speaker AI can still remember the house where we were laying.
Speaker AAnd she told me what happened.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker ABut she looked at me, and there's a lot of people that hear the statement through the years.
Speaker AI figured I'm.
Speaker AI'm not the only person that's heard this, but she just looked at me and said, I don't love you anymore.
Speaker AI don't love you anymore.
Speaker AAnd that.
Speaker AThat.
Speaker AThose are powerful words when they're told to you by someone that you love.
Speaker CWell, my heart had turned to stone.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CYou know, and, you know, God had to take and melt my hard heart.
Speaker CHe had to take and turn me around.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd.
Speaker AAnd he did.
Speaker AHe started doing.
Speaker ABut see, what happened is I had to focus on capturing Linda's heart again.
Speaker AI had to remember what I did, what I needed to do.
Speaker AAnd so I began.
Speaker CGet me back to steak and shake.
Speaker CRight?
Speaker AYes.
Speaker ATake me back.
Speaker ABut I had to get that.
Speaker AAnd the point being here is, on this part of our journey is a lesson, husbands and.
Speaker AAnd wives, you need to be investing into your marriage.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AOn a regular basis, it'll be really imperative for you to get some good marriage counseling so you can get some of these issues working on.
Speaker ABecause you never even go to marriage counseling.
Speaker AThat doesn't.
Speaker ABefore you get married, doesn't guarantee anything.
Speaker ABut again, it starts.
Speaker AYour foundation.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AAnd like I said, we were.
Speaker AWe were involved at ministry.
Speaker AWe had a great group of people when we were kind of like volunteer youth ministers and stuff with other youth pastors where we went.
Speaker AWe had a great environment.
Speaker ABut you know what?
Speaker AWe never in.
Speaker ALinda wanted to, but I said, we're too committed to our ministry.
Speaker AWe got to be at all these meetings.
Speaker AI don't need to.
Speaker AI don't need to change or.
Speaker AOh, here it is.
Speaker AI'll change.
Speaker AYou'd tell me something.
Speaker AOh, I'll change.
Speaker CYeah, yeah.
Speaker AThree days later, back to that.
Speaker AHow long does that last before somebody's heart begins to get hard?
Speaker AIt's like, seriously, let's go to a marriage conference.
Speaker ALet's.
Speaker ALet's do this.
Speaker ACan we just go to the young couples meeting one night?
Speaker ANo, we can't do that.
Speaker AWe got to be here.
Speaker AWe're committed.
Speaker AI was committed to everything but to our marriage.
Speaker AYeah, so let that be right now.
Speaker ANo matter how long you've been married, are you committed to your marriage?
Speaker AAre you.
Speaker CThink about it.
Speaker AAre you listening to anything that's going to strengthen your marriage, even if your marriage is doing good?
Speaker CRight there.
Speaker AThere's a lot of people.
Speaker AWe've been along, been Christians for a long time and a lot of stuff going on, but people will listen to.
Speaker ATo tapes on healing.
Speaker AThey'll listen to tapes on how to be a better Christian, how to build your faith, all these things.
Speaker ABut you mentioned anything to them about listening to something on marriage.
Speaker AOh, I'm good.
Speaker AI'm good.
Speaker AI'm really good.
Speaker AWe're.
Speaker AWe're doing okay.
Speaker ABut what it is.
Speaker CBut are you?
Speaker AAre you.
Speaker ABut what happens even if you're doing good?
Speaker AYou can listen to us or somebody doing a teaching, or you.
Speaker AYou get a book, and maybe they bring out something on communication or something on sex or maybe how you're raising your kids.
Speaker AYou can go, you know what?
Speaker AI've heard this before, but I haven't been doing that.
Speaker ASee, it stirs up your mind.
Speaker AIt renews your mind to things we've done, forgot about, or how to respond to somebody or how to romance your wife or how to respect your husband and take care of him.
Speaker ASo we got to have a way remembered since.
Speaker ASee, that stuff, I. I wouldn't open myself up to, and it almost cost me my marriage.
Speaker AIt put Linda in a box and almost destroyed her.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo that's what we're talking about.
Speaker CWe started learning, then we started Both learning how to understand each other.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CBecause.
Speaker CBecause I knew I didn't really care for my personality being like it was.
Speaker CAnd.
Speaker CAnd Greg was so stable and so calm about everything.
Speaker CIt made me want to just slug him upside the head.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AWe both had good traits going on, but we just didn't.
Speaker CWe didn't understand things.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker AAnd like Lynn said, we began to understand each other.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AAnd personality styles.
Speaker AAnd what we started doing was we started building a foundation.
Speaker CThat's the whole key.
Speaker AThat's what our goal.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CThe God factor.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker AAnd Matthew 7, 24, 27 says, Everyone who hears these words of mine, that's talking about God.
Speaker AAnd a lot of time we just think about the word.
Speaker ABut if you.
Speaker CHe.
Speaker AHe tells us how to be a husband.
Speaker AHe tells us in the Word how to be a wife, how to walk in love, how to do forgiveness, how to turn the other cheek, how to treat one another.
Speaker AAnd so he's saying, if you'll listen to the teachings about how to be a better person, just be kind to one another.
Speaker CYes.
Speaker AAs you do this.
Speaker AWhen the storms come.
Speaker ASee, we had the storms come of a miscarriage, of having kids, of moving across the country and leaving family behind, of financial situations.
Speaker ABut those storms came and that caused erosion to happen.
Speaker ASo what we started doing was building a foundation.
Speaker AWe.
Speaker AWe said, all right, Greg, Linda, to each other, what can we do this?
Speaker AI don't know.
Speaker AWe use these exact words.
Speaker ABut what we did is we begin to build that foundation because it says, a foolish man, if he doesn't have a good foundation, his house is going to come down.
Speaker ASo we started going to marriage conferences.
Speaker AWe started reading the books together, we started praying together more.
Speaker AAnd there's a lot of things we're going to share about that we did, but it got us back together.
Speaker AAnd Linda says, you know, my heart was ready to go day one.
Speaker ABut she said it took about two or three years, I think.
Speaker ARight.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker AFor her to get back.
Speaker CIt was a length of time.
Speaker ABut I remember on this one little part here, I remember we went to this marriage encounter weekend with the Catholic church.
Speaker AI remember I. Linda got back in town, I said, we need to do something.
Speaker AAnd back then, there wasn't all the stuff we have today.
Speaker AI mean, there wasn't nothing on tv.
Speaker AYou didn't have audios, you didn't have the Internet.
Speaker AYou didn't have.
Speaker AYou can't even record your TVs unless you had a BCR.
Speaker AAnd I called him up, said, you guys got anything going on?
Speaker AShe Says, yeah, in a couple of weeks we're doing a marriage encounter weekend.
Speaker AI said, great, we want to come.
Speaker AShe goes, well, if your marriage isn't doing really good, it's probably not the best thing to come to.
Speaker AI said, we're coming.
Speaker AAnd we came.
Speaker AAnd the big thing they had us do was talk.
Speaker AWe would listen to a person talk, maybe have a little small group.
Speaker AThey send us back to a room and we talked, talked, talked.
Speaker ASo communication is there.
Speaker ASo we're going to stop there.
Speaker ATalking about building a foundation and then we're going to take the next episode and we're just going to talk about the next few years are our life and things were learned and where we've been and then we've got.
Speaker AThen we'll get into the last 12 or so years where it's like the marriage busters came at us.
Speaker ABut because of what we've done and built in our marriage, it's allowed us to get through them.
Speaker AThat mountain that that guy sang about.
Speaker AAnd yes, Bible says, give me my mountain for Caleb.
Speaker AWell, that's what our goal is.
Speaker AWe want to take the mountain because they're going to come.
Speaker ASo any things you want to say, Linda, before we close up?
Speaker CNo, just that, you know, what, you know, we.
Speaker CWe had.
Speaker CWell, we'll cover a lot of it.
Speaker AYeah, we're gonna cover it.
Speaker CSo.
Speaker CYeah.
Speaker CNo, I don't.
Speaker CYou know, things that we had to start building.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CHow we prepared us for the storms that were ahead that we had no clue was coming.
Speaker AYeah.
Speaker CYou know, what did we do through.
Speaker AThe next few years?
Speaker AWe had a lot of good stuff happening and different things, but we're going to get in there and then.
Speaker AHow the enemy can come in and try to steal cone ready for it.
Speaker AThe thing is, it wasn't necessary.
Speaker AHe got us to be jerks and not be husbands and wives now.
Speaker AIt was like since we had our foundation life hit and that's where the rubber meets the road.
Speaker ABut if you don't have your relationship in order.
Speaker AWalking in love when the storm said it magnifies everything.
Speaker ASo that's what we'll talk about next time.
Speaker AAnd yeah.
Speaker CSo some honeydews or you want to talk about our giveaway?
Speaker CBecause it has been our 48th wedding anniversary, we decided to do a married and love it coffee mug giveaway.
Speaker CAnd here's how you guys can participate.
Speaker CSo we're giving away for the married and love it coffee mugs.
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Speaker CThe deadline to do that is November 30th and the drawing is going to be on December 1st.
Speaker CSo just go to our website and the link is going to be in our show notes on how to click on our website.
Speaker CYou'll get to see a picture of the coffee mugs and we look forward to, you know, seeing a text or an email or voicemail.
Speaker CAny comments or questions or topics that you want us to cover in the podcast or any prayer requests to send us your prayer request for your family, for your marriage.
Speaker CAnd then let us know how much.
Speaker AYou like the podcast and our email and you can go through the website or, or call us and leave a met.
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Speaker AHere's a topic I'd like to hear and we'll be glad to hear it.
Speaker AOr say, hey, you know what?
Speaker AWe're really enjoying your podcast.
Speaker AWe like this, what you shared.
Speaker ASo this.
Speaker AYes, just do that.
Speaker CWell, some honeydews before we close up.
Speaker CYeah, well, think about your a little bit.
Speaker CStart thinking about your story and journey and are there any adjustments that you might need to make?
Speaker CBut we didn't get into how to make those adjustments.
Speaker CWe'll do that next episode, but start thinking about it.
Speaker CAnd then we have our signature honeydew.
Speaker CWhat is that?
Speaker ANumber two is the ten second kiss.
Speaker AAnd before I say that, I mentioned something earlier about playing love song and maybe that's something you can do.
Speaker AIf you guys haven't got some of your old love songs out, make up and take a tape or look, good gracious, look at that.
Speaker AA playlist on your, your phone.
Speaker ASheesh.
Speaker AAnd sit around sometime, listen to some love songs while you're kissing or kissing or yeah, hopefully you'll be kissing, but around the house you're doing some chores and different things.
Speaker AGet creative.
Speaker ABring back some, some memories.
Speaker AAnd you know, some of you guys to me can be a little spiritual sometimes say, well, that's not a Christian song.
Speaker AIt's about love.
Speaker AWhat's God about?
Speaker AIt's about love.
Speaker ASo.
Speaker ASo loosen up a little bit.
Speaker ASome of y' all need to loosen up.
Speaker ALoosen up your.
Speaker ATie your apron and just have some fun.
Speaker AGet, get frisky.
Speaker AAnd then do the 10 second kiss, you know, the 10 second kiss.
Speaker AWhat you do is you call your spouse over to you or you pull them over to you.
Speaker AAnd you a lot of times a good time to do it is in the morning.
Speaker ASay come here and you can say hey Siri, set my timer for 10 seconds or whatever way you want to do it and just give up.
Speaker APlan a good one on them.
Speaker AGive them that kiss.
Speaker AIt can set the atmosphere for your day.
Speaker AWho knows, if you don't got to go to work right then what could happen?
Speaker AAnd it may just be a little I love you type kiss, but nothing happens if you don't do something.
Speaker CAll right, well, I hope everybody has been inspired by today's message.
Speaker CI know I have.
Speaker CIt just brings back good memories for me and our good rated G days and our Steak and Shake days.
Speaker CAnd so if you know anybody that you think could benefit from the podcast, we'll pass the word along to them.
Speaker CAnd with that in mind, we're gonna see you next week.
Speaker CAnd until then, remember this, you can be Married and Love it on purpose.
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Speaker BAnd remember with God that you have a future and a hope and you can be married and love it on purpose.