Oct. 9, 2025

Ep 47. Communication in Marriage, Conflict Resolution: Are You a Hider, Hurler or a Healer?

The Married and Lovett Podcast serves as an essential resource for couples seeking to enhance their communication skills and resolve conflicts effectively within their marriages. In this episode, hosts Greg and Linda Smith illuminate the critical role of communication in fostering marital harmony, emphasizing that the way couples interact significantly influences their relational dynamics. Through engaging dialogue, they underscore the common struggles faced by spouses—ranging from the inability to discuss sensitive topics to the escalation of minor disagreements into major conflicts. The Smiths skillfully categorize relational behaviors into 'hiders' and 'hurlers,' encouraging listeners to reflect on their own communication styles and the potential for growth toward becoming 'healers.' By integrating biblical wisdom and practical advice, they present a compelling case for the necessity of intentional dialogue, urging couples to embrace vulnerability and understanding in their interactions. The episode is infused with actionable insights and a heartfelt invitation for couples to embark on a journey of healing communication, ultimately striving for a marriage that is not merely endured, but truly cherished.

Takeaways:

  • The podcast emphasizes the significance of communication in marriage, addressing conflict resolutions effectively.
  • Listeners are encouraged to identify their communication styles, such as hiders, hurlers, or healers, and strive for healing.
  • Practical communication strategies and biblical references are provided to facilitate better marital interactions.
  • The hosts stress the importance of love and respect in resolving conflicts and enhancing marital unity.
  • Regular communication about various topics strengthens the marital bond and prevents misunderstandings.
  • The podcast advocates for intentionality in communication to foster a peaceful and loving marital environment.

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Welcome to the Married and Lovett Podcast.

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We are Greg and Linda Smith, your host from Raleigh, North Carolina.

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The goal of our podcast is to provide you with a weekly dose of marriage teaching to help you stay focused on your marriage.

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Well, you can even call it continuing education.

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We will be covering everything that has to do with your marriage, including hot topics like sex, communication, love and much, much more.

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Our teachings are based on Christian principles plus over 47 years of marriage and ministry experience.

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We want to help you make your marriage great by teaching you how to be married and love it.

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It is an honor and privilege to have you join us.

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Hey, I' glad you're here with us today to get your weekly dose of Married and Love it.

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That's your booster shop for the week and today's episode.

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We're going to be talking about communication in marriage and focusing on conflict resolutions.

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It's going to be exciting.

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We've been looking forward to this one and perhaps you may have said or had these thoughts in your marriage.

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Well, one of the thoughts is we can't talk about anything important without getting into into a fight.

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Or whenever I try to tell her I feel, she seems disinterested and sometimes critical.

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Or maybe this is a thought you've had.

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He simply avoids all conversations about us.

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We can discuss vacation, where to send his kids to school, what car to buy.

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But he refuses to talk about our relationship.

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She's too emotional.

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She's either crying or hollering or complaining about something.

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I just avoid her.

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It's easier.

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And we both try to talk through our problems, but it never makes us feel closer.

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We get defensive or impatient and end up further apart than when we begin.

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Something is definitely wrong.

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How about this one?

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Women?

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My husband is deaf.

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He never hears what I say.

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She talks every subject to death.

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He always gets defensive when I ask him something.

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She makes everything into an argument.

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He is so stubborn, he won't even consider what I have to say.

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And he never says what he means.

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That's not what I meant.

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Well, if you've ever thought of any of these or said these, we are here to help you with your communication within your marriage.

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Well, here's a definition of communication that might help a little bit, right?

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Yes, that's good.

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The sharing of information, feelings, ideas, calendars, dreams, events, hurts, frustrations, conflicts, and, well, we know the list goes on and on and on.

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Well, here's some food for thought ideas on what topics communication should include.

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There should be some topics that are victories in your marriage and even defeats.

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Household projects, kids, grandkids, goals and dreams.

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Church, extended family, work, budgets, money, unresolved issues, health issues, sex, hobbies and interests.

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Challenging challenges that you might be facing within your family or personally or maybe even professionally discussing your marriage.

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Relationship up pets.

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That's a biggie.

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Yeah.

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You know, that causes some kind of conflict sometimes.

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Well, like I said, the list does go on.

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And all these areas and more require good communication and discussions because you know what, if not this happens?

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Frustrations develop, disappointments, bitterness can develop.

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Or if you're not communicating at all and running away from these things, the roommate syndrome can develop.

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So anyway, this episode is going to continue the topic of communication, which we brought out in episodes 29 and 30.

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And in those episodes, we gave a good definition of what communication means, how it works in your marriage, and some lot of different tips on communication about.

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It takes a talker and a listener and some other steps to be good communicators.

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In this episode, we're going to talk about handling conflict in marriage.

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And before we do that, Linda's got something she wants to share.

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I just wanted to encourage y' all to send us your comments or any questions and topics that you'd like to see covered on our podcast.

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We'd love to hear from you.

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And if you have a prayer request, we will be praying for you.

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And you can leave that prayer request on our phone line.

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You can either text us or voicemail us or even email us.

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Now, our phone number and our email address is going to be in our show notes, so tap into that.

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Okay.

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Yeah, we'd really love to hear from you.

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That'd be great.

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And pray for you.

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That's right.

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Well, okay, moving on, let's look at three types of communication that do occur during a conflict.

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We call it the triple H. So listen up and try to see which one you might be.

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All right, there's number one, a hider.

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Now, this is what a hider looks like, sounds like, or sounds like or isn't, you know?

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Right.

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They don't share feelings, ideas, or frustration.

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They avoid all conflict.

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They live in a shell.

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They hold on to hurts and problems.

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They give the silent treatment.

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They don't like to rock the boat and sometimes even lie about stuff just to avoid any kind of conflict.

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And they'll withdraw.

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Kind of like a turtle in the shell.

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Yeah.

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Right, that's right.

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Maybe to protect themselves.

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Whatever.

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A hider is not healthy.

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No.

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And so another one of the triple H is a hurler.

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Well, what's a hurler?

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Well, that is someone that does blame shifting.

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They may be very sarcastic, they throw insults out, they ridicule, they always have to get the last word in.

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They love to argue.

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Debate, they call it debate.

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Yeah, yeah.

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Or corrective communication.

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Right now.

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They love to argue.

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They cannot say I am sorry.

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Well, the hider in the hurler can automatically close down communication or sometimes add fuel to the fire, which with that comes bitterness, rejection, a lot of times offensive offenses.

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Yeah.

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You know, so that's painful now.

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Yeah.

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You get a hider and a hurler in a conversation.

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Maybe it doesn't start bad or hectic or conflict oriented, but all of a sudden one of them says something or refers to something and then all of a sudden the hurdler can kick in and blame shift.

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When the hider doesn't want to hear that, they can start clamming up and before long you get that going back and forth.

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Or maybe you got two hurlers and that can be really interesting because you're both lane shifting, pointing fingers that could be bad into one liners going on.

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And then if you're both hiders, then, then you're both going to go to your room and pout.

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Yeah.

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So.

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But here's the next one we want to talk about.

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And this is our goal for this episode, to see everybody become this.

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Okay, so we talked about the hider and we talked about the hurler, and neither one of those are very good.

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No.

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You're in the middle of a heated discussion.

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Should I say?

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So what we want to do is, is to talk about becoming a healer or to be a healer in the midst of conflict resolution.

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And what a healer does is they encourage and bring peace, they bring harmony and they bring resolutions, solutions to whatever the situation may be.

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But they do it with a providing a calm environment.

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They promote conversations to, to commute information, insights and concerns about the situation.

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And they don't shame, blame or degrade.

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They step out of their comfort zone sometimes.

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But their whole goal is to be a healer.

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And the healer really should be our ultimate goal in our marriage.

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And usually to be a healer, we don't start there.

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Some people can have that natural gifting and gracing, or maybe they've developed their walk with the Lord and they got love flowing out of them.

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And they can be that.

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But a lot of times, a lot of healers come from reformed hurlers or hiders.

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That's true.

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That's so true.

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So here's a question for you.

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In this episode in your marriage, is there bickering and disagreements and arguing going on?

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Is strife there?

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Is this a constant that it's constantly going on and you can't seem to stop it?

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Or is it happening more than you want?

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Think about that.

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Answer it honestly.

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Maybe think something you can think about for the rest of the day or evening once you listen to this.

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And then ask yourself why you choose to continue and argue and fight on a regular basis.

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What have you been doing to try to stop it?

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Well, you know what?

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There is a fast way to stop it.

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What's that?

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You just stop.

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You just make the decision to stop arguing.

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Just stop arguing.

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You don't pour gasoline on a fire.

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The fire will burn out.

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Yep, you got a good.

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Here's how.

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So Greg just said about the fastest way to stop arguing is to, like Nike says, just stop, just do it.

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Instead of just do it, just stop it.

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Yeah, just stop arguing.

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That's pretty easy.

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But you know, the good word tells us the Bible in Proverbs 15:1, it says, now this, this will really quench a fire.

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A gentle answer turns away wrath.

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But a harsh word, what it stirs up anger.

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So that's what we want to try to avoid is a harsh word.

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Yeah.

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You know, follow the instruction book for life.

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And what's that?

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The Bible.

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Bible put the God factor in there.

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Well, but we do know that it is easier said than done.

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And you, you really have to be intentional about it and make that decision and to develop a habit and be a fast thinker.

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What when you're caught in that moment, that one moment, like I can either hurl or I could hide or I could heal.

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So think about that.

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You know, you, we, we have the power to change our conversation and that is by a gentle answer, we create that environment that brings healing and peace.

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Yes.

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You can change your marriage atmosphere by doing Proverbs 15:1.

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Just in a moment, a moment of time, by making that decision.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And Linda said it's fast thinker because these arguments and stuff can pick up and you get going at a pace and you're just speaking out of an emotion right there.

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You know, a lot of this can come but by us spending more time reading the Bible and getting, having our prime times in the morning and we're feeding our spirit man, because our flesh man, when our spouse says, well, you did this and you did this or it's your fault.

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What happens.

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Our flesh wants to rise up and go, no, you made me do it, or the devil made me do it.

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But as we're becoming more like Jesus in our marriages, which.

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That's another whole topic.

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It is.

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We've got that new nature in us, that fruit of the spirit can come up because it says in the fruit of the spirit.

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If you're operating in the fruit of the spirit, acting like Jesus, then you're able to develop self control.

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And what happens, you know the old saying, when you poke something, what's in it's going to come out?

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Well, if we've got love and compassion in us, we're good.

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We get poked.

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You know what?

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Hopefully that's what comes out.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Now, we're not all going to be.

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Nobody's ever a perfect communicator, but you can do this.

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And just by getting prepared before we go into battle with our spouse, we're getting ourselves prepared by spending time with God and stuff.

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So.

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Because you do have to be a fast thinker, because I know I like to have one liners and Linda can have one liners.

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But now we got to say, oh, in a split second we got to go, oh, just stop, stop.

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Speak, speak peace, speak love.

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That comes by practice, which we're going to talk about.

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So let's look at some keys to being a healer.

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Now, I'm going to say a strong statement right here.

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When we are being a hider or a hurler, we are being selfish.

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That's true.

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You're being selfish.

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If you're a hider and somebody, your wife or husband says something and you, you, it just gets you so mad and you don't even know what to say or whatever, and you give them the silent treatment for five minutes, five hours or five days.

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That is being flat out selfish and that attacks your marriage and that's going to bring your marriage down.

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If you continue to do things like that or it's going to cause you, you are going to be a roommate.

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Matter of fact, they may kick you out.

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Roommate.

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But just thinking about yourself.

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So when that's what we're looking at.

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Inside, you're just saying, what about me?

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What about me?

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What about me?

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So when.

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So if you're constantly being a hider.

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I'm not.

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Yeah, hider or hurler, you're, you're just being selfish right now.

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And how is this going to impact our marriage?

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Now this is interesting.

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The Bible talks in Ephesians 5, 1 and 1st Peter 3 that husbands and wives are to love, respect, honor, cherish each other.

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So when we respond to our spouse as a hider, we go in our little safe spot or we don't want to talk and we run away from it.

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Or where that hurler who lets everything go, we are disrespecting our spouse, dishonoring them and being selfish.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Well, regardless, regardless of why you're hurler or harder to move on in your marriage, you have to have a desire to change.

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You know, some people, they just don't want to change.

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Yeah, they just like, well that's just the way it is.

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They're fine, live with it.

Speaker A

They're fine.

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They just live with.

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Yeah, yeah.

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They just tell their spouse, that's the way I'm going to be.

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So get over it.

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And if you have a spouse like that, then you, you still need to follow what we're talking about.

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Yes.

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By putting on love.

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Yeah, it can make a difference because.

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Eventually love will win.

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That's it.

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Love always wins.

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It never fails.

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So number one, to have a desire to change and then, then you make the decision.

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You got to decide to change, to improve and then you got to learn how to properly communicate because this might be something new to you.

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I mean, maybe you didn't have a good role model that gave you or showed you how to properly communicate.

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Maybe your parents didn't know how to properly communicate with one another and you had a poor role model right there.

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So number one, desire to change.

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Number two, decide to, to change and improve.

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And number three, learn how to properly communicate.

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So in the past episodes we talked about building our marriages on the rock.

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Linda had brought up about learn how to properly communicate.

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And we are going to be getting into the nuts and bolts of that in the next episode.

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But this one as she brought up, we're building our house, our marriages on the Word of God so when the storms come, we can stand strong.

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And part of that is our communications.

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We're going to be sharing several scriptures right here.

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Building our communication found down foundation on His Word.

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And these scriptures are pretty self explanatory.

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And if we do these scriptures, the ones we're going to be talking about and you begin to learn how to properly communicate.

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You don't, shouldn't have to go and spend hours in counseling to learn how to communicate unless you got some deep rooted issues going on in your life.

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Because the Word is a perfect instruction book on how we can learn to communicate.

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So the first scripture we're going to talk about as a do is Ephesians 4, 39, 42.

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It says, Let no one wholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as good for edification according to the need of the moment that it may give grace to all those who hear to your spouse.

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You know, not every, every conversation on communication is going to be where you got to edify somebody.

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But this is, this is talking about an air.

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It's talking about the spirit of your communication, okay?

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It says, let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor be put away from you along with all malice and be kind to one another.

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So if things begin to get heated in a conversation, maybe you're arguing about who, where you're going to go for Christmas, dear, you're working on your year end calendar and you're thinking, all right, Thanksgiving, we're going to go to your parents.

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Christmas, we're going to go to my parents.

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New Year's, we're going to be here at the house.

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And, and then one of you goes, no, no, no, no, everybody is going to my mom's for Thanksgiving.

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And then all of a sudden you start getting into a heated discussion about it.

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So that's where you got to let all bitterness and wrath and clamor be put away from you.

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That's when the healer needs to kick in and say, now dear, let's take, take a step back, let's look at this and let's see what works best for our family or whatever.

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So that's where you, you, you begin to be tender hearted.

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And then if you don't get your way, then you got to forgive each other.

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All right?

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All right.

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Well, another one is 1st Peter 3, 8 through 11.

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It says, Let all be harmonious, sympathetic, brotherly, kind hearted, humble in spirit, not returning evil for evil, or no one liners.

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No one liners.

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That's what, that's what it says here.

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Or insult for insult.

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But, but be, give it, but give a blessing instead, okay?

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For you were called for the very purpose that you might inherit a blessing.

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Let him who means to love life and to see good days refrain his tongue from evil.

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That's pretty good.

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You know, that is gonna, if you keep your tongue in check, then you're gonna see good days and you're gonna have a life that you're gonna love so and so.

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Let me just back up and say this again.

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Let him who means to love life and to see good days refrain his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking guile.

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And let him turn away from evil and do good.

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Let him seek peace and pursue it.

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You know, it kind of ties into even you're going to reap what you sow.

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That's true.

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So if you're being bad mouth or.

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Yeah, not.

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I don't mean cussing and all that, but if you're just being negative stuff around, you know, you're setting bad seeds for yourself.

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All right, next one Colossians 3, 8 through 14.

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But now you also put them aside.

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Put aside anger.

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Especially if you know you have an anger problem where you're short tempered or you get triggered easy.

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You have to make a decision to put those aside and begin to work on that and pray about it.

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Put a.

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Put aside anger, wrath, malice, slander, abuse of speech from your mouth.

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Do not lie to one another.

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Since you laid aside the old self, that's the old you with its evil practices, and put on the new self.

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And so as those who have been chosen of God and beloved put on, put on, put on a heart of compassion.

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See, that's where that instant thing comes in.

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If you're in a regular conversation, all of a sudden the temperature starts going on up.

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That's when you go, oh, am I gonna, am I going to be a healer or a hurler?

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Right now you put on compassion.

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Yeah.

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You put on kindness.

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You put on humility, gentleness, patience, being patience with your, your spouse, bearing with one another and forgiving each other and whoever has complained against anyone.

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Just as the Lord forgave you, so also you should.

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And beyond all this stuff it says, put on, put on love.

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Put, put on your good communicate.

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Put on your healer coat.

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Oh yeah, change clothes.

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Take off your hurler clothes.

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Take off your, your hiding, hiding clothes.

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Put on love.

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Put on your healing clothes so you can talk.

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Put on the proper uniform.

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Put on your perfect uniform.

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And it says, when you do this, it's a perfect bond of unity.

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Putting on love brings unity in a situation.

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And let the peace of God rule your hearts.

Speaker B

Wow, that's good.

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So 1st Peter 4, 8, 9 also says, above all, keep fervent.

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And I was curious, what does fervent really mean?

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It means being passionate.

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Be passionate in your love for one another because love does what it covers a multitude of sins.

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Be hospitable to one another without complaint.

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That's good.

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I'm glad I didn't have to say that one to try to say hospital.

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I got one more scripture.

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I know we're giving you a lot of scripture, but we're building a foundation for good communication in your household, when the storms come, you can stand and learn and grow and overcome.

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And this scripture is in Philippians 2, verses 2 through 4.

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Let me get my Bible over here.

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Make my joy complete by being of the same mind.

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So you want to be in the same mind once you start getting into these conversations, Be on the same.

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Be on the same team and same thought process trying to get things settled.

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If you're having a disagreement, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, attempt on one purpose.

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Do nothing from selfishness.

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Now we're looking at this in the.

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In the area of conflict.

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Okay?

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Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit.

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But you who with humility of mind, let each of you regard one another as more important than himself.

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So when you're having that conversation, you got to look at this.

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My spouse is more important to me.

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How am I treating them?

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How am I responding to them?

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Am I promoting unity or cooperation?

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Or am I promoting strife and selfishness here?

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And then maybe even depending on what the situation is, maybe you got to prefer over to them.

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All right, Then it says, do not merely look out for your own personal interest.

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See there you got to be thinking about what.

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What's the goal of the whole conversation?

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But you got to be open minded, but also for the interest of others.

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So be thinking about not yourself, but your spouse.

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Right?

Speaker A

Yes.

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And not only that, but just your overall marriage together.

Speaker A

That's right.

Speaker B

Right.

Speaker A

Now, here's some final nuggets as we begin to close up.

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Number one is learn how to communicate.

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Now, next episode, we're going to go through a whole bunch of tips on how to properly communicate how.

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How to talk and such.

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It's gonna be very practical.

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And I would, I do say go back to episodes 29 and 30.

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30 because they lay a great foundation and we cover some of that in there.

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So definitely listen to those if you haven't already.

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Yeah.

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Learn how to respond and not react.

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Respond is being a healer.

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Reacting is being a hider and a hurler.

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Because the Bible says in Hosea 4, 8, my people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge.

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Most of us are not born a natural communicator or, or a walking in love all the time.

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That's why we've got to invest and learn how to do these things.

Speaker B

Yeah, well, we've seen a lot of marriages destroyed because of bad communication.

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Yeah.

Speaker B

I mean, the only thing that needed to be turned around was just how they communicated with each other.

Speaker A

I remember times we've c. Talked to lots of couples and they go through the hiding and hurler.

Speaker A

And I just remember this one guy, we.

Speaker A

We were actually doing a counseling.

Speaker A

He just got up, walked out of the room.

Speaker A

It wasn't because he needed to take a break.

Speaker A

He didn't think he was doing anything wrong.

Speaker A

And that's just how, I guess maybe his family even did it, but, you.

Speaker B

Know, just walk away from each other.

Speaker A

Then I hear he doesn't.

Speaker A

He doesn't even talk silence for the next week or two or the next day or two.

Speaker A

I mean, that's bad.

Speaker B

That's not the way we should operate in our marriage.

Speaker A

That's being selfish and maybe immature and mature.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

You know what?

Speaker A

We're adults.

Speaker A

We're married.

Speaker A

We got the band that says we can.

Speaker A

We said when we set our vows, we're going to do all these things.

Speaker A

So we need to grow up, put our big boy pants and our big girl pants on.

Speaker B

There you go.

Speaker B

Deal with issues from the.

Speaker B

The past that might be impacting your communication, like past relationships or maybe like we talked earlier, that your role model.

Speaker B

They were not a good role model in this area.

Speaker B

Or maybe you've had hearts or there's bitterness that has taken place.

Speaker B

You know, recognize these issues and, you know, deal with them.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Name them out.

Speaker B

Because, you know, there's something about calling them out, whatever the situation is, whatever the past situation has been, and then dealing with it, and don't use them as an excuse to respond negatively.

Speaker B

So many people just say, well, that's just how it is.

Speaker B

Because that's.

Speaker B

That's just how it is.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

Well, become a healer for yourself, your spouse, and your marriage.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker A

That's the key right there.

Speaker A

What does your marriage need you to be?

Speaker B

Yes.

Speaker B

Ask yourself, what does my marriage need?

Speaker B

And ask God for help.

Speaker A

Yeah, ask God for help.

Speaker A

I know one of my issues was Linda says I tone a lot, and I probably do sometimes, but sometimes I think I'm just being passionate or just getting excited.

Speaker A

And maybe I do tone.

Speaker A

But what I realized a while a few years ago is my dad would tone a lot.

Speaker A

And that kind of goes back to my upbringing.

Speaker A

All right?

Speaker A

So I can say, well, that's just the way I am.

Speaker A

But no, I constantly.

Speaker A

I say, lord, help me not to tone.

Speaker A

Help me to respond to Linda the way I should be.

Speaker A

Holy Spirit, help me catch it before it comes out.

Speaker A

Now, that's the key, is catching it, learning it.

Speaker A

So I'm constantly say, lord, help me.

Speaker A

In the mornings, I'll ask lord, how can I be a better husband to Linda.

Speaker A

And he'll.

Speaker A

He'll show me things and I know if I ask her, she'll tell me a lot of things, you know, But I like to hear it from the Lord.

Speaker A

But anyway, so ask God.

Speaker A

Bring God into your communication.

Speaker A

Bring him in as an individual and let him help you.

Speaker B

You know, I just had this thought that somebody might actually be experiencing in their marriage a little bit of both.

Speaker B

Like maybe their spouse does both.

Speaker B

Maybe they hide.

Speaker B

Well, first of all, they might hurl.

Speaker A

And then they go hide and then.

Speaker B

They go stomp and walk out of the room and.

Speaker B

And offer the silent treatment.

Speaker B

I'm.

Speaker B

I know.

Speaker A

Schizophrenic communicator.

Speaker B

Yeah, they.

Speaker B

They've got a double thing going on there, you know, that's rough.

Speaker A

That probably happens a lot.

Speaker B

Yeah, I've seen it.

Speaker B

I've seen it in many homes.

Speaker B

And so if we, if our whole focus is to look at becoming an.

Speaker B

A healer.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

In this situation.

Speaker B

Well, let's just.

Speaker B

We're going to have these.

Speaker B

We got some.

Speaker B

I call it popcorn.

Speaker A

When they need to pray together, right?

Speaker B

Absolutely.

Speaker B

Oh, absolutely.

Speaker B

Always, Always.

Speaker B

You know, try to pray.

Speaker B

Not just ask God for help, just you and the Lord, but pray together as a couple.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker B

If you see that these are areas in your marriage that need to become better and you want to become a healer, pray that the Lord help both of y' all to become better with each other.

Speaker B

So I like to do popcorn scriptures and here's a few of them for communication.

Speaker A

These are going to be little quick.

Speaker B

Quick little script scriptures.

Speaker A

We call it popcorn scriptures.

Speaker A

A lot of times we'll start speaking scriptures to each other during the day or we're sitting around just bam, bam, bam.

Speaker A

So these are popcorn scriptures about communication.

Speaker A

I'm not going to teach on them or preach on them, I promise.

Speaker B

So I think we'll put them in the show notes.

Speaker B

Proverbs 15:4.

Speaker B

A soothing tongue is a tree of life.

Speaker B

But perversion, it crushes the Spirit.

Speaker A

Proverbs 15:8 says, A hot tempered man or woman stirs up strife, but the slow to anger pacifies contention.

Speaker B

Proverbs 15:23.

Speaker B

A man has joy in an apt answer, and how delightful is a timely word.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker A

Proverbs 15:28 says, the heart of the righteous ponders how to answer, but the mouth of the wicked pours out evil things.

Speaker B

Proverbs 17:14.

Speaker B

The beginning of strife is like letting out of water.

Speaker B

So abandon the quarrel before it breaks out, man.

Speaker B

That's a decision.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker A

Proverbs 12:18 says, There is One who speaks rashly like the thrust of the sword, but the tongue of the wise brings healing.

Speaker B

That.

Speaker B

That is super good stuff.

Speaker B

All right, in closing, here's some scriptures.

Speaker B

We got a few more.

Speaker A

Yeah.

Speaker A

All right.

Speaker A

The first One is Proverbs 16, 23, 24, and I call this the healer scripture.

Speaker A

It says, the heart of the wise teaches his mouth and adds persuasiveness to his lips.

Speaker A

That's other words.

Speaker A

A healer is wise, and he's teaching his mouth on what to say and how to say it.

Speaker A

Pleasant words are a honeycomb, sweet to the soul and healing to the bones.

Speaker A

And then right here, for good communication, Psalms 133, 1:3 says, and this is a short version of this, behold how good and pleasant it is for brothers.

Speaker A

And I'm going to put for a marriage to dwell in unity, because when you're communicating, excuse me, when you're communicating and having.

Speaker A

Or dealing with conflict and having to deal with issues, and we all have to do that, that's.

Speaker A

That's normal.

Speaker A

It says you, if you do that and you're unified, it says, for there where that unity, where that peace is going on, the Lord commands his blessing.

Speaker A

That's a powerful one.

Speaker A

That's good, you, motivation right there.

Speaker B

That is.

Speaker A

And then Genesis 11:6, and the Lord said, behold, they are one people.

Speaker A

And this is when the.

Speaker A

The people there were trying to build the Tower of Babel to go all the way up to heaven.

Speaker A

For they are one people, and they all have the same language.

Speaker A

He's talking about being unified.

Speaker A

They're speaking the same thing.

Speaker A

They got good communication going on, and this is what they began to do.

Speaker A

And now nothing which they purpose to do will be impossible for them.

Speaker B

Wow, that's pretty powerful right there.

Speaker A

We get this communication down in all areas, man, we're going to be unstoppable as a married couple.

Speaker A

And because when we get out of communication, I think Linda brought up, it can destroy a marriage.

Speaker A

Let's get a goal to unify and get this communication thing conquered.

Speaker A

So in the next episode, as we said before, we're going to be covering more tools and tips to help you communicate more effectively.

Speaker B

Well, we've got some honeydews, just a couple to look at.

Speaker B

Number one, how do you see yourself as you've heard us talk about the different ages?

Speaker B

Which one are you a hider, a hurler or a healer?

Speaker A

Or all three?

Speaker B

I don't know.

Speaker B

It depends on where you're at in life, right?

Speaker A

Yep.

Speaker B

And number two, how do you see that you can change your communication skills in these areas.

Speaker A

All right, think about that.

Speaker B

I mean, that's enough to keep.

Speaker B

Keep you busy.

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

For the next week, I can see.

Speaker A

Some I need to continue to work on.

Speaker B

Ah, me too.

Speaker A

And course number three is the ten second kiss.

Speaker A

You all know the drill.

Speaker A

You get your honey and you say, come on over here, grab them.

Speaker A

Say, hey, Siri, set my timer for 10 seconds and you plan a nice good kiss on each other and enjoy it.

Speaker A

You know what?

Speaker A

It's hard to argue when you're kissing.

Speaker B

Oh, yeah.

Speaker A

So maybe, maybe if you're in the middle of the argument, you need to grab each other.

Speaker A

Time for our 10 second kiss.

Speaker A

And do it right.

Speaker A

Then it may stop.

Speaker B

Argument.

Speaker B

Yeah.

Speaker A

All right, so 10 second kiss.

Speaker B

Remember that 10 second kiss.

Speaker B

Well, thanks for joining us.

Speaker B

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Speaker B

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Speaker B

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Speaker B

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Speaker A

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Speaker B

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Speaker B

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Speaker B

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Speaker B

How about that healing communication?

Speaker A

Yes.

Speaker B

And what's taking place in your home?

Speaker B

Maybe you got a testimony about how you began to apply some of this and then you saw some healing already take place in your home.

Speaker B

We want to hear about it.

Speaker B

So I got inspired by today's message.

Speaker B

How about you, dude?

Speaker B

Yeah, I'm looking forward to next week.

Speaker A

I want to go kiss.

Speaker B

Okay, let's do it.

Speaker B

Okay.

Speaker B

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Speaker A

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Speaker A

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Speaker A

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